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CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
so......
Chad says:
umm
Chad says:
well
Chad says:
do you have the poems that you sent me
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
let me find it
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
you can start
Chad says:
ok
Chad says:
the first thing i want to ask is whethermost chinese poems had a certain theme
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
no,not really
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it is not certain
Chad says:
it seems that Du Fu talks a lot about scenery
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
but for a certain poet he has his own particular scenery
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
each poet has his own field
Chad says:
so scenery and nature are the kinds of things that he writes
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
Du Fu paid great attention to the people suffering the war...or something
Chad says:
o
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it is because the time he lived
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
well,our chinese teacher often says if you want to understand a poem,you fisrt need to understand the backround of the poem and poet
Chad says:
so his poems are not litteral and have a different meaning than just what is on the surface
Chad says:
your chinese teacher makes a very good point
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yes...the scenery you mean is like"birds...trees...flowers..."that kind of natural scened?
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
scenes?
Chad says:
yea
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
this things...in Chinese,we call it "yi xiang"
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
well...
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
let me try to explain
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it is the natural things which are used to describe the feelings of the poet
Chad says:
o i see
Chad says:
it is a metaphor
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yeah,kind of
Chad says:
do you think yu could explain one of his poems to me
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
sure
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
well...you pick one...
Chad says:
how about the four line one you sent me
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
i forgot which one is that.....sry
Chad says:
two yellowbirds chirp in the green willow
one row of egret fly into the blue sky
outside the window, a thousand years of snow lies on the western mountains
in front of the door, ten thousand miles of boats float in the "Dong Wu"* harbour

CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
this one!
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:

CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it is really wellknown in China...all the little kid can recite it
Chad says:
wow
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
reciting poems is kind of early education for Chinese kids
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it is a picture of early spring
Chad says:
what about the snow
Chad says:
it seems so dark and sad
Chad says:
ten thousand years of snow
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
well...
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it is a high moutain
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
so the snow on it doesnt melt
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
doesnt melt for long time
Chad says:
is he trying to say that things are starting to get better, going from winter to spring
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yeah
Chad says:
what is he refering to
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
and it is because of the nice spring weather,he could see the snow on that moutain which could not be seen usually
Chad says:
o
Chad says:
so what is getting better
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
let's see
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
there are two parts of this poem actually
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
the first two sentences are kind of antithesis...
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
scences appeared in pair
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
he used colors....and showed the happines
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
but the later two sentences
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it says the boat from Dong Wu
Chad says:
is that something symbolic in chinese culture
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
'cuz of the years of war,usually the waterway are not working
Chad says:
so the war is ending and that is why there is happieness
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
but now boats are coming,war has ended
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yes!
Chad says:
yay
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
you r clever!
Chad says:
so although the snow seems sad, it is actually a happy line because the wether is so clear you can see the mountain top
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
and the appearance of the boat somehow stimulates his homesick
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yes
Chad says:
o
Chad says:
did he go off to war?
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
no...because of the war he has to move the the remote place
Chad says:
ok
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
he was in ChengDu while writing this poem
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
its kind of south west in China
Chad says:
What shall I say of the Great Peak?
The ancient dukedoms are everywhere green
Inspired and stirred by the breath of creation
With the Twin Forces balancing day and night
My chest holds layers of clouds
I strain my sight to see the birds flying home
Once I get to the very top
All the other mountains will look very small

Chad says:
this poem is the opposite then
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
can i have the title of this poem
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:

Chad says:
View of Mt Tai
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
dont know what is this...in english
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
ah!
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
this one!
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
its also an optimistic
Chad says:
he is looking forward to the day that the war will end
Chad says:
and what are the twin forces
Chad says:
/
Chad says:
?
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
a moment
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
kind of puzzled by the english translation
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
it is the earliest poem of Du fu
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
which means he wrote this when he was young
Chad says:
can you tell me what it is saying
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
the previous one was written when he was old
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
he went to the Tai Mountain
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
He stood on the peak of the moutain
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
looking at the view...(
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
ancient chinese people thought Tai Moutain is the highest place
Chad says:
what was he looking for
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
search?
Chad says:
what do you mean
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
no....he is just showing his feeling when he saw the moutain
Chad says:
o
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
the moutain was so spectacular
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
enormous
Chad says:
everything else was insignificant
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
high to the sky
Chad says:
ok
Chad says:
i understand
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
shows he is very optimistic
Chad says:
can we do one more
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
he has a desire to be great
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
sure
Chad says:
that is what the mountain represents>
Chad says:
?
Chad says:
greatness
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
kind
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yeah
Chad says:
he wants to achieve it
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
and the poet has a desire to work hard
Chad says:
ok i understant
Chad says:
the next one is called spring outlook
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
enterprising
Chad says:
was he a rebelion
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
?
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
no
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
this poem mainly shows his worries and his homesick
Chad says:
you mentioned this poem was writen after the lushan rebellion
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yeah
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
he wasnt
Chad says:
why was he in a rebel camp
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
he wasn't in the rebel camp
Chad says:
o
Chad says:
ok
Chad says:
i see
Chad says:
why does he talk about his age
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
I scratch the scant hairs on my white head,

CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
white hair
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
maybe
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
well...he was old...had white hair
Chad says:
he is sad about the rebellion and also about his age?
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
and he has little hair that hair clasp could not tie the hair
Chad says:
yah
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
he is sad about the rebellion,and he missed his family
Chad says:
o
Chad says:
and he doesnt know if he will get to see them again
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
to some extent,he felt that he could not do something for the country
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yes
Chad says:
because of his age
Chad says:
ok
Chad says:
i totally understand
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:

Chad says:
thanks for all your help
Chad says:
you are very smart
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
its my pleasure
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
you are smart!
Chad says:
i really had no idea what these were about
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
haha
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
sometimes i feel so too
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
even they are in Chinese
Chad says:
but like you said, i needed to get to know what was going on in his life
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
well...another key to understanding chinese poem is the natural things show his feeling
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:

Chad says:
and the colors too
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
yes!
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
sfjsklf
Chad says:
this has really helped me
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:

Chad says:
sorry if it feels like I'm just leaving suddenly
Chad says:
but i need to go somewhere
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
its ok
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:

CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
i got to do some hw too
Chad says:
i hope we can talk somemore later
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
cool
Chad says:
u are a very fun person
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
you too... i hope we could know more about each other
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:

Chad says:
ok
Chad says:
thanks again
Chad says:
bye!!
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
u r welcome
CTU Is A Belle (ip) I LOVE THE O.C says:
bye~see ya